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Bahrain GP - Appeals

Post by Gonk721 on Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:29 pm

Please post any appeals with VIDEO EVIDENCE below:

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Re: Bahrain GP - Appeals

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Re: Bahrain GP - Appeals

Post by madman_281 on Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:42 pm


I would like to appeal time penalty given to me at 1.41.10 on lap 34, you can hear me slow down through the left hander and i barely run all fr tyres over the white lines and cannot see how i would have gained any advantage.
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Re: Bahrain GP - Appeals

Post by Misterflash2 on Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:44 am

did we get a safety car again because of the steward retire?
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Post by Aletdownofstate on Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:14 pm

Misterflash2 wrote:did we get a safety car again because of the steward retire?
Yeah, I didn't realise a few people had pitted at the time, so I was too close to other drivers. We have an idea for next week though that should sort it.

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Re: Bahrain GP - Appeals

Post by McDASTARDLY-00- on Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:24 pm

madman_281 wrote:
I would like to appeal time penalty given to me at 1.41.10 on lap 34, you can hear me slow down through the left hander and i barely run all fr tyres over the white lines and cannot see how i would have gained any advantage.

Please explain what you hope to achieve from Appealing this three second penalty? (your 2nd pen of the race) even if we did look at it & find in your favour, you have a further five warnings between Lap 34 & Lap 57 on the Race Director, ie. one penalty (making it three now) + 2 warnings, if one is removed you still have nine seconds of penalties + 1 warning & are still classified as FOURTH in the standings.

you had warnings on laps - 7, 9 (x2) 14, 20, 34, 41, 42, 51, 52 & 57  = 11 warnings = 3 x 3sec pens + 2 warnings.

Races & Places have been won & lost in S7 because of CC & ETL's, this is why the Rules are set to STRICT, to discourage all drivers from doing it. The easy answer is, stay on the black stuff, it's the same for everybody else on track.
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Re: Bahrain GP - Appeals

Post by Trond_1981 on Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:09 pm

Not apealing for any penalties here, but a sort of yellow card maybe, for going back to the racing line under braking after having made a pass...

Example 1: Danthebluebird passes me into T1 on lap 21 (scroll to 25:20 in my video)


Example 2: Danthebluebird passes SteveF1 into T1 on lap 34 (scroll to 57:50 in Aletdownofstate's)
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Re: Bahrain GP - Appeals

Post by Misterflash2 on Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:32 pm

The game places me in P6 while i finished P3 in front of Trond with a 3 sec penalty, madman 9 sec penalty and Russlad with no penalty.
So the right order would be Russlad P3, Misterflash P4, Trond P5 and madman P6.
Minute 51:50 and the race result are the evidences.
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Post by McDASTARDLY-00- on Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:34 pm

Misterflash2 wrote:The game places me in P6 while i finished P3 in front of Trond with a 3 sec penalty, madman 9 sec penalty and Russlad with no penalty.
So the right order would be Russlad P3, Misterflash P4, Trond P5 and madman P6.
Minute 51:50 and the race result are the evidences.

Nothing wrong with the results MrFlash, it's basic arithmetic, crossing the finishing line really closely might make you think you finished higher up but if you add up the times you'll find your exactly where your supposed to be..6th. Remember, any time penalties have already been added to your finishing times by the RD.

Dan       : 95.37.614
Boi        : 95.58.807
Trond     : 96.01.076
Madman : 96.01.471
Russ      : 96.02.367
Mrflash  : 96.02.389

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Re: Bahrain GP - Appeals

Post by Trond_1981 on Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:14 pm

I do see Flash' point, because I ran out of fuel just before the finishline, and Flash flew by me before the finish line. And when both of us had one 3-second penalty, it really was a matter of getting to the finishline first... So, I share Flash' asumption that the official results might be wrong....
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Re: Bahrain GP - Appeals

Post by McDASTARDLY-00- on Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:34 pm

Trond_1981 wrote:I do see Flash' point, because I ran out of fuel just before the finishline, and Flash flew by me before the finish line. And when both of us had one 3-second penalty, it really was a matter of getting to the finishline first... So, I share Flash' asumption that the official results might be wrong....


Edit: watched all the highlights & appeal video's now, on yours it does seem like Flash crosses the line in front of you by a margin larger than the results show, i can only assume that your complete race time starts from your grid slot @ the start,  to the finish line so the drivers at the front actually have a shorter race by nearly the length of the grid, need to look at your quali results now, not sure where you both started.


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Re: Bahrain GP - Appeals

Post by Misterflash2 on Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:04 pm

i passed Trond on the DRS line, way before the finish line, Trond's race highlights shows that.
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Re: Bahrain GP - Appeals

Post by Trond_1981 on Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:20 pm




Seems like quite a margin to me, but maybe this is not the finish line?!
I'm confused....
We started 3rd and 4th (Flash), so we were as close as can be on the start...

But by all means, let the results stand... 3rd is fine by me... Wink
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Post by McDASTARDLY-00- on Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:17 pm

Misterflash : Although you are shown on the results screen as having 1 x 3' time penalty, you actually have two, which is why you seem to have such a large gap over Trond @ the finish line & assumed that only having one penalty you should be in 3rd place, the 2nd penalty should have came up on lap 46 when you received your 3rd warning for ETL, It hasn't, but the warnings are all there & the timings make more sense now because your overall race time has exactly 6' added to it, i can't explain why you haven't been shown the penalty in the final standings but the warnings are there in the RD.

Warnings for ETL on Laps 6, 10, 16, 21, 32 & 46. = 2 x 3' time penalties. This puts you in 6th place.

I've been checking RD's since S7 started on F1'16, never seen this before where the Warnings in RD & the Penalties on the Results screen don't match, but there's a 1st time for everything i suppose, hope this explains the confusion for everybody.

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