01/03/2015 Decisions

Members in attendance: Riggy, F1xStevo, Pagey_80, Whiteside & McDastardly.

AL1

Italy

Madman/Clatty - The FIA has found that Clatty caused an avoidable incident at T1 as well as multiple direction changes while defending, gaining a position for doing so. For failing to relinquish the position Clatty is to recieve a qualifying ban to be put in effect for Singapore.

AL2

Italy

Bloodandsands15/CHM - The FIA has determined that there is insifficient evidence to determine the cause of CHMs spin and subsequent front wing loss. No further action.

Phillip/Bloodandsands - For causing an accident with Phillip at the 2nd Lesmo, Bloodandsands is to recieve a 3 point WDC penalty. with any future incidents of this nature recieving a harsh penalty.

Phillip/Bloodandsands - For attempting to deliberately cause an incident with Bloodandsands, Phillip is to recieve a 1 race ban effective immediately for Singapore.

The FIA has voted against double points for Abu Dhabi.

I disagree with F.I.A. decision on my appeal Bloodandsand admits to taking me out :- see below

Re: Italian Grand Prix - Appeals
Post by bloodandsand15 on Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:43 pm

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Only bad thing was i ended up hitin chm after it, cud nae avoid it thats fir sure

Look chm i cud nae avoid hitin u as i was spinin it was ah bloody accident jesus christ man

Bloodandsand if you look at the video lap 6 you were trying to overtake Aletdownofstate at ascari you left the track midway through ascari came back on and hit Aletdownofstate  bounced of him spun came across the track and took me out, what I am appealing about is if you had not hit Aletdownofstate with trying to overtake in a no chance part of the circuit you would not have taken me out.
I know you had no control of where you ended up but if you had not tried to overtake where you did this all could have been avoided.

Re: Italian Grand Prix - Appeals
Post by F1xStevo_87 AL1 Mod on Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:42 pm

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Bloodandsands cuts through the middle section of Ascari spinning off Riggy into the path of CHM taking his wing off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-UFHSj1GQqI

CHM we know you got hit & lost your wing by Bloodandsands unfortunate spin back onto the track infront of you, but i had no evidence if you might have cut over the first part of Ascari on the left, which if you had would have given you less time to react, & if you didnt we still dont know if you could have avoided been hit.

I did not cut Ascari as you can take youself out very easy by hitting the curb..
I was in the middle of the track when he hit me. I had no time at all to avoid him or I would have done.
Can this be looked at again please?

I understand wot u mean chm and can see wot im doin wrong. I can asure u i wont be tryin to overtake like that ever again. Will only try to overtake if im on ah long straight and not at corners

OK Bloodandsand fare play lets have good clean racing

CHM, the best advice I can offer you here is to start recording your races. It's the only guaranteed way that an incident/appeal can be looked into. It's what i started doing at the start of this season after a number of incidents where I couldn't appeal because there was no footage. The race steward can only capture a small portion of everyone's race after all.

You don't even need to go and spend loads of money on a recording device, you simply need a mobile phone/tablet/laptop with a record function. In this day and age pretty much all phones have this functionality.

In terms of having the incident looked into again, there is no point unless there is additional footage provided that's shows us something different from the video already posted. As Stevo mentioned there is no way of knowing what happened from your point of view. It's an unfortunate sequence of events that lead to you losing your front wing granted but if every appeal was punished on heresay then all number of appeals would be made regardless of whether something happened on track or not.

What Pagey said. Everyone should be doing it. It would make life a lot easier for everyone and bring a certain amount of accountability to peoples actions. Would also make the FIA's job much easier.